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		<title>By: Buck Manager</title>
		<link>http://www.buckmanager.com/2007/03/11/importance-of-buck-to-doe-ratio/comment-page-1/#comment-5376</link>
		<dc:creator>Buck Manager</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2011 13:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff, the most important aspect of any type of deer survey is that there is no observer bias. Cameras, depending on how they are used, may not provide reliable herd composition data. I would suggest reading these articles on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wildlifemanagementpro.com/2011/04/05/bias-associated-with-game-cameras-for-deer-surveys/&quot; title=&quot;Game Cameras for Deer Surveys&quot; target=&quot;new&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;using game cameras for deer surveys&lt;/a&gt; and ideas on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.buckmanager.com/2009/12/30/deer-density-buck-to-doe-ratio-and-harvest-rates/&quot; title=&quot;Buck to Doe Ratio&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;buck to doe ratio&lt;/a&gt;. Based on what you see while deer hunting, does the camera data surprise you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff, the most important aspect of any type of deer survey is that there is no observer bias. Cameras, depending on how they are used, may not provide reliable herd composition data. I would suggest reading these articles on <a href="http://www.wildlifemanagementpro.com/2011/04/05/bias-associated-with-game-cameras-for-deer-surveys/" title="Game Cameras for Deer Surveys" target="new" rel="nofollow">using game cameras for deer surveys</a> and ideas on <a href="http://www.buckmanager.com/2009/12/30/deer-density-buck-to-doe-ratio-and-harvest-rates/" title="Buck to Doe Ratio" rel="nofollow">buck to doe ratio</a>. Based on what you see while deer hunting, does the camera data surprise you?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Howard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Howard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2011 01:08:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We lease a 322 ac track of land in East Middle, Georgia. We have several game cameras located throughout the property and we were quite surprised to see that seemingly our buck to doe ratio seems to be 2 to 3 bucks for every doe. We also noticed a lot of spikes and some with weird shaped and angled antlers, and some where rather large. Any suggestions as to how to turn our ratio around to 1:3 or 4?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We lease a 322 ac track of land in East Middle, Georgia. We have several game cameras located throughout the property and we were quite surprised to see that seemingly our buck to doe ratio seems to be 2 to 3 bucks for every doe. We also noticed a lot of spikes and some with weird shaped and angled antlers, and some where rather large. Any suggestions as to how to turn our ratio around to 1:3 or 4?</p>
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		<title>By: Buck Manager</title>
		<link>http://www.buckmanager.com/2007/03/11/importance-of-buck-to-doe-ratio/comment-page-1/#comment-2822</link>
		<dc:creator>Buck Manager</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 18:59:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daniel, the best way to estimate the buck to doe ratio, as well as fawn productions, on a property is to perform daylight &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.buckmanager.com/2008/02/25/daylight-observation-surveys-determine-deer-herd-composition/&quot; title=&quot;Buck to Doe Ratio Surveys&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;deer surveys&lt;/a&gt; annually in late summer. Additionally, if you want to maintain mature bucks on your property, harvest no more than 20% of the buck herd annually. This includes culls as well as &quot;good&quot; bucks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daniel, the best way to estimate the buck to doe ratio, as well as fawn productions, on a property is to perform daylight <a href="http://www.buckmanager.com/2008/02/25/daylight-observation-surveys-determine-deer-herd-composition/" title="Buck to Doe Ratio Surveys" rel="nofollow">deer surveys</a> annually in late summer. Additionally, if you want to maintain mature bucks on your property, harvest no more than 20% of the buck herd annually. This includes culls as well as &#8220;good&#8221; bucks.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Bruton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Bruton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 19:57:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How do I get an accurate count on our deer (buck to doe ratio)? We lease an 1,800 acre property and are on the d-maps program, but don&#039;t want to harvest too many does. We are not seeing the quality bucks that we should be seeing, especially with the genetics that are in this area. We just got this lease and we are trying to get more quality bucks. The hunters before us were taking bucks that they should have let walk. This area is in south central Oklahoma, if that helps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do I get an accurate count on our deer (buck to doe ratio)? We lease an 1,800 acre property and are on the d-maps program, but don&#8217;t want to harvest too many does. We are not seeing the quality bucks that we should be seeing, especially with the genetics that are in this area. We just got this lease and we are trying to get more quality bucks. The hunters before us were taking bucks that they should have let walk. This area is in south central Oklahoma, if that helps.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Qualls</title>
		<link>http://www.buckmanager.com/2007/03/11/importance-of-buck-to-doe-ratio/comment-page-1/#comment-2730</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Qualls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 14:34:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can only speak for myself but it was more of a case of &quot;not thinking at all&quot; than thinking the doe killing was best for my land. The general idea for doe harvest in Oklahoma seemed to be &quot;there are too many deer everywhere, kill all you see.&quot; While this seems ok in some parts of the state and in urbanized fringe areas where hunting is nil or very limited, deer numbers in many areas were reduced to the point that it was difficult even to fill a doe tag. 

Private landowners are gradually becoming &quot;land managers&quot; (this is not to say that some good land managers and good management on public lands such as refuges was not already an is going on) although most had to experience the same startling realization that I did, that &quot;kill all does&quot; is not an accross the board good practice for managing a deer herd. The doe harvest must be based on habitat and deer density as well as buck to doe ratios. 

On both of my hunting areas (within the past 3 years), without any prompting, neighbors have begun to manage the deer herd based on their habitat management and harvesting based on informal deer surveys. As for the first couple of years, there was not much to survey. Deer numbers were very low and the only way to return to a minimal deer herd was to stop harvesing every doe that walked on the place.

This has involved at least 10 different landowners in my area and management goals vary depending on the landowner. Some only harvest large bucks and some are harvesting bucks only until the deer quantities get back where they should be. Either way, the quality of hunting in both areas has improved dramatically.
 
The one fly in the ointment is that a newer landowner that has a fairly large deer camp is totally convinced that there should be no does and all bucks in order to have a &quot;good&quot; deer herd. I expect that this will take care of any doe management problems for all the neighbors without the need to start killing does again. 

The most obvious thing I noticed when we started leaving the does alone was that during the rut, they became an attractant for bucks from adjacent areas that had fewer does. 

As far as public promotion of deer management in Oklahoma, it is still in the form of &quot;kill all does&quot; as opposed to landowner education and deer herd management based of local or regional needs. Most actual management on private lands here comes from lease hunters or landowner/hunters that either realized the need for site specific herd/habitat management based on experiences like mine, or picked up some essentials from sites like yours, or learning from other hunters. 

Otherwise the general management rule for Oklahoma hunters is &quot;if it is a deer shoot it, especially if it is a doe.&quot; While this may be sustainable in some areas without any formal management (usually areas with mimimal hunting pressure) the areas that are overpopulated with deer are usually the areas where no hunting is allowed.

In areas with lots of hunting pressure, the deer population is wiped out every year and only gets replenished by deer filtering in from areas that don&#039;t allow deer hunting. It&#039;s not much fun spending a week in a tree with nothing to watch, except for an occasional squirrel or bird. Many Oklahoma hunters have been there. I didn&#039;t like it.

If you are a person that hunts public land in Oklahoma, there are parts of the state where you have a chance to kill a deer on opening day, and after that, the odds get pretty slim. I am thankful that I no longer have to rely on only on public land and have the chance to learn some real deer management techniques from folks like those here.

Sadly the only deer management taught by Oklahoma game biologists seems to be &quot;kill all does,&quot; no exceptions. Didn&#039;t work for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can only speak for myself but it was more of a case of &#8220;not thinking at all&#8221; than thinking the doe killing was best for my land. The general idea for doe harvest in Oklahoma seemed to be &#8220;there are too many deer everywhere, kill all you see.&#8221; While this seems ok in some parts of the state and in urbanized fringe areas where hunting is nil or very limited, deer numbers in many areas were reduced to the point that it was difficult even to fill a doe tag. </p>
<p>Private landowners are gradually becoming &#8220;land managers&#8221; (this is not to say that some good land managers and good management on public lands such as refuges was not already an is going on) although most had to experience the same startling realization that I did, that &#8220;kill all does&#8221; is not an accross the board good practice for managing a deer herd. The doe harvest must be based on habitat and deer density as well as buck to doe ratios. </p>
<p>On both of my hunting areas (within the past 3 years), without any prompting, neighbors have begun to manage the deer herd based on their habitat management and harvesting based on informal deer surveys. As for the first couple of years, there was not much to survey. Deer numbers were very low and the only way to return to a minimal deer herd was to stop harvesing every doe that walked on the place.</p>
<p>This has involved at least 10 different landowners in my area and management goals vary depending on the landowner. Some only harvest large bucks and some are harvesting bucks only until the deer quantities get back where they should be. Either way, the quality of hunting in both areas has improved dramatically.</p>
<p>The one fly in the ointment is that a newer landowner that has a fairly large deer camp is totally convinced that there should be no does and all bucks in order to have a &#8220;good&#8221; deer herd. I expect that this will take care of any doe management problems for all the neighbors without the need to start killing does again. </p>
<p>The most obvious thing I noticed when we started leaving the does alone was that during the rut, they became an attractant for bucks from adjacent areas that had fewer does. </p>
<p>As far as public promotion of deer management in Oklahoma, it is still in the form of &#8220;kill all does&#8221; as opposed to landowner education and deer herd management based of local or regional needs. Most actual management on private lands here comes from lease hunters or landowner/hunters that either realized the need for site specific herd/habitat management based on experiences like mine, or picked up some essentials from sites like yours, or learning from other hunters. </p>
<p>Otherwise the general management rule for Oklahoma hunters is &#8220;if it is a deer shoot it, especially if it is a doe.&#8221; While this may be sustainable in some areas without any formal management (usually areas with mimimal hunting pressure) the areas that are overpopulated with deer are usually the areas where no hunting is allowed.</p>
<p>In areas with lots of hunting pressure, the deer population is wiped out every year and only gets replenished by deer filtering in from areas that don&#8217;t allow deer hunting. It&#8217;s not much fun spending a week in a tree with nothing to watch, except for an occasional squirrel or bird. Many Oklahoma hunters have been there. I didn&#8217;t like it.</p>
<p>If you are a person that hunts public land in Oklahoma, there are parts of the state where you have a chance to kill a deer on opening day, and after that, the odds get pretty slim. I am thankful that I no longer have to rely on only on public land and have the chance to learn some real deer management techniques from folks like those here.</p>
<p>Sadly the only deer management taught by Oklahoma game biologists seems to be &#8220;kill all does,&#8221; no exceptions. Didn&#8217;t work for me.</p>
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